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What is the big Effing deal with girl gamers?

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Okay, this is just a rant. it isn't meant to offend anyone. What the F*cking Hell!!!!! Why is it every damn time that I sign onto Halo 3, Gears of War, Call of duty, Left 4 Dead, and all the other multiplayer games that I have to listen to a bunch of assholes treat girl gamers like sh*t???!!! I head all kinds of insults, such as "B*tch!!! go back in the kitchen and make me some dinner", "A Girl??!! I bet your fat", "Don't you have dishes to clean?", the list goes on and on. The last time something like this happened to women was back in the early 1900's when women were fighting for equal rights. Now I am not a feminist but I do believe in equal rights in all things, I believe that everyone should be treated equally regardless of their Race, Gender, Political View, Religious Affiliation, Lifestyle Choice, or Sexual Orientation. so to all you gamer guys out there, SHOW SOME GOD D*MN RESPECT!!!!!
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for the record, this is not directed at any one person, it is directed at every gamer that treats a girl gamer like shit. if you do show respect to them, then show your support to this issue.
That is one of the many reasons that I generally only talk to my friends over party chat. The way some dipshits treat girls is only one of many reasons not to listen to them. Also, is it just me or are the most vocal douchebags usually the worst players?
@WILDMAMMOTH you bring up a very good point my friend. usually they are terrible players, HA!!!
@Fenrir085 Sometimes I think they are obnoxious just so we won't notice how terrible they are.
@WILDMAMMOTH agreed, but i admit that i do hate certain people, namely Emo's, but I must always see the bigger picture, so I cannot allow my hatred towards the emo community control me. So I leave them be, but if they come crying to me when it affects me personally then I would give them something to really cry about.
wooow almost my hero =P
@jkbarbie aw, I'm flattered. lol
@Fenrir085 =D
Yeah, i see this happen alot, this is the part i friend the girl, join her team and procceed to frag the douchebags and rub it in you got beaten by a girl (by a fellow guy so terhy can't really use half the insults). Followed by a report = P

Yes i believe in equal rights for everyone
I've not seen that sort of behavior in a long time, but on the other hand, I also don't play those particular games. Most of the people I see playing them at Gamer's Inn are just generally foul mouthed, though, so I suppose I'll probably catch them acting like this toward a girl gamer eventually.

Of course, Dryad goes to the same internet cafe and can easily beat some sense into them if she hears them acting like that. Maybe that's why I never hear any anti-girl talk around there.
I've not seen such behaviour in a while, but everyone should have equal rights, hearing things like this makes me angry. Some people are just douchebags on the internet.
Nothing to do with girls specifically. Most people online talk nonsense. The rare times I have been dragged in to listening I have heard racism, sexism, unbelievable stupidity etc. Thats why Instick to my own parties only and I identify new possibly cool people by how they play!
The one thing I almost constantly find about the types is that they generally don't care who or what their sexual preference, gender or nationality may be. They're just looking for someone's feathers to ruffle. It's a very unfortunate side of online gaming that I feel can mainly be blamed on the anonymity of the Internet. I take solace in the fact most of them are under age or typically too cowardly to say any of their asinine hate speech to any one of the people's faces.

Best defense? Stronger vocabulary, or reverse psychology, imply their hatred is their secret wanting of being whoever whatever they're insulting. I've actually had encouraging success with those tactics, most times without cursing at all.
People get brave behind a computer screen, and weak people react to feelings of inadequacy and self doubt by bashing others to try and make themselves feel more powerful.

My daughters game VIOLENTLY and target their antagonists first.

Guys who do this are generally frustrated, young, and have yet to learn the life-saving admonition that "Hell hath no fury...."

Those guys will eventually learn that female gamers (FragDolls as an example) have unmatched patience and more innate group cunning than men. They may not face you head-on, but you'll feel the sting at some point, guaranteed.
I have a particular fervent hatred of sexism, it's mankind's oldest and most in-grained bigotry, and will, unfortunately, probably be the last to be overcome.
I've come across them, and usually ignore them in town once i realize they are just ignorant and lashing out. If they are PMing me I'll put them on my ignore list. I have considered reporting a few times, but never have.

A lot of guys seem to need to show off, & become overly competitive with each other around me, trying to prove they are the alpha. I find that very annoying in team situations.There like several people that I have fun playing with, but I can't mix them.

Also there's very few of them that can suck it up & follow me & do what I tell them. There's been more than 1 occasions that we have failed elite missions after spending a couple of hours working our way to the boss, because they won't listen to me, even though I'm the only 1 in the group that's done it before.

Of course there are some of them that I know there ego won't allow them to follow, so when I play w them I make sure I have confidence that they are up to the task, and then just let them lead.

I'm sure that it has a lot to do with the number of adolescents involved in gaming.
Well it's XBOX Live....

There's a reason I don't like playing competitive MP, people like this.

If you want a good laugh, check out the Account Suspensions and Player Feedback forums, dumbest people you'll ever see.

http://forums.xbox.com/1386/ShowForum.aspx
No offense to anyone, but XBL is filled with almost nothing but morons and jackasses.
Yeah I'm sure XBL is pretty horrible, but even my female friends on the PSN run into issues like that. We generally play in private group matches and don't have to deal with the idiots.
I point you to the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory. It is quite infallible.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/
@EarthboundX its because of those morons that I am considering leaving Xbox Live for good. I've thought about setting up a PSN account.
I don't think that they're insulting you because you're a girl. They're insulting you because they're idiots.
I'm French and sometimes find myself on the receiving end of the most ridiculous prejudice. I usually play along, something like "wait, I was just eating some fromage in my baguette, but now I'm ready to play". Or I'll face them head on with something like "Don't be cocky, you won because you played better than me, not because you're American". Or just some plain ol' lecturing.
It is my experience that when confronted to meaning of their words, most people will stand corrected. But what applies in my case doesn't have to be true in your case, because those are 2 different kinds and degrees of prejudice.
It has happened to me dozens of times on XBL, so by now I'm more amused than angry when it happens.

And I can always quit and hope that the next people I play with have an IQ greater than a bulldog.

I wish to pint out that most people I chat with online during play are act polite or lively people, and are nice to play with. These idiots are anomalies.

Cheer up, and good game.

Off topic, but might raise your spirits a little bit, the best Left 4 Dead player among my XBL regular friends is a French girl (L4D is the MP game I play the most).
ergh.. That is why the first thing I do is create a party. If it isn't a bunch of hillbilly racists, it's someone being a ftard. Much of the time with regard to idiots being specifically toward females I feel rather embarrassed to be a male of the species.
@Fenrir085 Girl, just ignore them. I guess this just shows you the attitude and anonymity on XBL. But then again on the internet for gaming, this is prevalent everywhere. Don't worry though, it'll change when more girls pick up videogames.
More girls have picked up video games, but most girls don't play FPS games. You don't see nearly so much of this behavior in MMORPG's, because there's almost always a middle-aged woman listening.
@Fenrir085 I doubt PSN is any different Fen, if anything, there might be more morons, since it's free.
I am a guy and i would like to point out, YOU DONT GET ANYTING FOR BEING A DICK TO GIRLS. its useless nonsence! respect them!
@EarthboundX It's worst on Live. Everyone on PSN doesn't have a headset...
I completely approve of this topic. =)
@MrRoboto406 Its the internet, people say what they want to say if it amuses them because they dont care what other people think for the exact same reasons you should just ignore them.

However, @Fenriro85 , feel free to rage on.
@MrRoboto406 Oh, that's not true. You get to hang on to your precious virginity. FOREVER.
@Avs what makes you think I'm a girl? I'm a 23 year old guy that has the moral understanding to show respect to women.
@Avs people that act like that on the internet are called Anons.
I am not about to use hiding at a computer screen to justify me being an asshole to anyone. its just wrong.
I just wish I could have a larger ignore list in some games.
@Fenrir085 Sorry, I get influenced by the number of times people remind others that they are a girl instead of a guy. And I wouldn't count posting a rant about this stuff as counting that you understand how to show respect to women...but I'll...give you the benefit of the doubt haha.

Here's a question: Do you tell those people who say that to shut the fuck up? Or do you silently do nothing? I wanna hear it.

One other thing, all the games you mention are generally shooters. I think thats a big contributor to the issue here.

A different perspective: The guys talk shit at the other guys they are fragging. Then they frag a girl. Do they: A, not say anything so they don't hurt her feelings? B, talk shit and treat her like the other guys they obviously talk shit about. Which is equal? Neither? Both? Are they supposed to be more considerate? What is sexist or biased in this case? Can you burp and fart in a woman's presence? Or are you the only one offended? Do they even consider what they are saying to be serious? What about the girl? Who's disturbed more, you or her?

They still don't have to be such jerks. You can taunt your opponents without being offensive.
@Avs its alright, usually I just ignore it if i don't know the person getting offended. but if the insults involve someone i know personally I can get very defensive and it usually is very aggressive.
@MichelleSavage true, its called friendly rivalry.
@Fenrir085 Yeah but that's for people who are...well friendly and not anon.
@Avs, If your playing an FPS with an african american, would you shout racist remarks, tell him to go pick cotton, etc. Telling a woman to get back to the kitchen is the same thing. Trash-talk is a part of the game for some players, and that's not the issue here, but bigoted slurs are abhorent under ANY circumstances, regardless if they're defamitory towards race, gender, or sexual orientation.
@Avs hell would freeze over before I met a nice anon. lol
@Fenrir085 There seems to be quite a few people that do just that. Even in MMORPGs. They are usually High level losers who hang around low lvl areas try to make everyone think their cool. Personally I find a person wearing Elite Armor, standing around the noob area insulting people and trying to act cool pitiful.
@TamaraLane yes, very pitiful.
Well, there are offensive treatmen as a girl i suffered too, but its mostly related to dont believe me when i tell im a girl, i cant understand it to be hard to believe, and then is when the insults begin.
They treat us as a liar boy or they offend us as a girl...why?
There just seems to be a lot of sad people in online games.

That's the only reason people insult others, to make others feel bad, so they feel less bad about their own crappy lives.

I usually pity people like that.
The real reason is because shooters are populated by 14-year-old boys who are infatuated with the new insults and swear words they just learned.

On the other hand, I'm always finding people in any game who assume that any girl playing video games naturally must be looking for cyber sex.
Yeah, and those 14 year old boys have crappy lives, so they make others feel bad to feel better about themselves.
@EarthboundX hey earthbound? how old are you? lol jk
I'm 23 why?
Because I think there's only one reason people are dicks? How you ever been insulted by a happy person?
@dowekeller Well said!
@EarthboundX Many, many times. Kids these days are just foul mouthed and rude.
@Dryad He means real happiness, people who appreciate life and are surrounded by other happy people.
Not rich people, they may look happy but inside they are hurting.

I was going to add something to this discussion, but every possible word has been said, well done people, you truly make a fine and respectable community.
Of course, not all rich people are like that, I just threw a random example.
@Avs HEY! :<
@EarthboundX I was kidding, you made a comment about 14 year olds and I was attempting a funny. lol
I'm familiar with a few happy people who have incredibly foul mouthes. They can be found on stage at the Improv.
@Dryad Well I've never been insulted by someone that was happy and content with life.
The reason I believe this, was because, I used to be like that, I was unhappy, so I made others feel bad so I could feel better.

I'm pretty content now, and I never insult people.
@xoaks That is true! they get stuck with their hands all their lives!
With online activities in general it is the fact that people can insult others and get away with it because the other person will never find out who they are. Being online multiplies the worst in people a thousand times. You take some arrogant person in real life and they will be worse online because you don't know who they are. As in the case of guys being mean, and from what I am reading you are implying extra mean though correct me if I am wrong, the only thing I can come up with is ego. They just got humiliated by a girl, so to them they have to insult you to keep their manhood. Though all it really does is makes them look worse than just getting beat. My advice is to try and ignore it and chalk it up to the fact that the internet is full of jerks who think insulting people makes them look cool. However, if things get really out of hand don't hesitate to report them and let them feel the good ol' banstick.
don't blame them it's the only form of communication they have if its not girls its black people or gay people (sometimes jewish people) who suffer their nerdly wrath.
Actually, I never hear them trash talking black people. I hear them trash talking white people without pause.
It's funny, but I've never really run into this problem on the PC L4D or Team Fortress 2 servers that I've played on. Then again, it could be because they're pc games, and it's easy to ban them.
the mute button is really great for me on XBL. almost everyone on all those games (except Left 4 Dead kinda surprised to see that game) are jerks who suck really so they try to play mind games. it helps if you think of it like this.
Halo 3: they all still believe in cuddies.
GOW2: Trying so hard to compensate for short comings
COD4: Everyone is a jerk if they have a mic mute them
Halo ODST: look at Halo 3
If this doesn't help always go into a game with party chat (which is what I do). Their just angry that they got their arse kicked so they look for anything to make fun of.
I agree completely. Not much you can do other than mute them sadly
@madman19 yeah, trying to talk back to those morons is like pouring gasoline on a fire.
Just try getting them to explain various swear words, curses and innuendos they use. That usually calms them down a bit. Nothing dampens their enthusiasm like having to explain how an inanimate weapon with no gender can be homosexual.
@madman19 And rate them badly, and report them.....
I figure since they stand around practicing being jerks, they're not worth my time. I might mess with them a little if I'm in the mood, but usually I just ignore & go on my way, after all I'im play to have fun, not put up with abuse. Since I don't know how these other systems work, I don't know if "walking" away is as easy. When they're by themselves, I wonder who they pick on...
Well, considering it's internet gaming, it's more like navigating away.
so what? trashtalking sometimes is part of the game. no hardcore gamer would lose for a girl and live to tell about it. sometimes, you have to win by any means necessary --except cheating.
also, will you guys care that much if the foul-mouth gamer boy trade places with the gamer girl? i mean if the girl is trashtalking, what are you gonna do about it?
@adzowry, there's a difference between trash talking and being a bigot. One is an acceptable (if annoying) practice, the other is just a waste of good oxygen.
very true :)
I don't consider trash talking acceptable at all, it's the main reason I don't like competitive MP. There's no reason you can't have good manners, and be polite when you are playing against others, I am.
@EarthboundX Here Here!!!
Trash talking makes us no better than the actual people that are trash talking. sometimes you just have to be the better and more mature person.
The best way to deal with this is the mute feature and dropping to lobby. I am in my late 30's and the ageism BS lack of respect talk happens as much as the sexism but I look at who is talking and know they have to feel powerful over the headset. I find it something to comment on and keep awareness there. Most are just upset a "Girl" might be better at them in something and its a shame because I know it keeps some female gamers from returning.
@Fenrir085 Maturity? On my Internets? Surely you jest!
@xoaks good point, lol
I agree, show some respect or try to at least.
thank you for putting this up T.T
@Edelwiess your welcome, I felt it was an issue that needed to be discussed.
@xoaks nice one
I don't hear any "Go back to the Kitchen" jokes. But I do hear the sounds of horny nerds
@bettadud Horny nerds is not a good thing, lol.
its like pedophiles in a day care center, lol
lol yes it is
i was playing uncharted 2 today and it resulted in a mass of moaning on my earphone. Two gamers where going at it in the game. I'm surprised that a chick would do that..... or a guy. My faith in humanity has taken another blow.
That's been going on for as long as there has been an internet.
Okay... where to start? First off being an older gamer it is nice just to have female gamers on. I am all ways surprised when I see them on. And true there are those people that make rude comments. But lets be honest in that...... They are everywhere and in basically every game. I have found though that FPS games are worse than the others. Check the games you are playing. For one thing Halo has always been bad and most of the real gamers haven't liked that game for that reason for some time now. Most of these people can be ignored now.... hence the party system.
They're just imature and illmannered people who don't know any better and never stop to think before they go off saying things they shouldn't. Anyone with half a working brain knows the real victims of this stupidity are the ones dumb enough to start it....because they're dumb enough to start it. Just ignore it....
Plus it isn't just females either. Basically for these people it is everybody.
There's a reason some people don't have girlfriends X3
Generally, people are douches on the internet. Anonymity can be both good and bad, really.

Although another thing that annoys me is girl gamers who want people to do as they say because THEY ARE GIRLS WINK WINK WINK and act like complete idiots.
Yeah. It's not like boob-based hypnosis works over the internet.
@LordXenophon lol so true unless they have webcams. :P

On a serious note though, most girl gamers actually play way more intense then some of the guy gamers i know, they actually can focus more on strategy and outwitting then brute force. When i played professionally I would always try to recruit at least one girl gamer for my squad in Counterstrike, a lot of times it can prove to be quite advantageous.

What doesn't make sense to me are the guys that berate woman over xbox live, it's retarded. "get in the kitchen and make me asandwhich" As it might be funny if the girl is a firend of yours and doesn't get mad but it just proves that you suck at games and need to up your skills.
As long as they are not the gamer-chixs. I heard that they sucked at most games.
I expect very little of people online. Rude people are nothing new... Just ignore them. Or better yet hunt them down in game and give them hell?
I need to get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich. BRB.
@LordXenophon It's working okay for me ~<3
Actually, there is one gamer girl who I would tell to go to the kitchen and make me a sandwich, but that's because she works at an internet cafe and it's her job to make the sandwiches.
@LordXenophon I would never say that to any girl I know, even if she worked at such a place. With the girls I know, I'm pretty sure I'd get a bloody nose for it.
@WILDMAMMOTH no offense but maybe the girls you know lack a sense of humor given the situation?
@bettadud Why would I take offense at that? A lot of them do lack a sense of humor in that situation. And I know one that is more than capable of actually breaking my nose...
yea there idiots they dont know shit usually little kids whos balls havent even dropped yet, so they feel free to talk shit but that goes for alot of things..
I got a friend who jokingly tells his girlfriend to make a sammich for him. She just kinda looks at him funny, and they usually both end up laughing. The difference here of course is that they love one another.

Saying this to a random girl on the internet however I find kinda cowardly.
Welcome to the Internet.

The Internet is largely populated by assholes with no communication skills, lots of insecurity, and a strong herd mentality. They'll happily replicate whatever meme of the month is popular - such as telling females to go make them a sandwich. They'll insult anyone and everyone who is even slightly different - women, homosexuals, foreigners, whatever. And they'll spout profanity almost nonstop.

Don't take it personally.

Most of these folks are still living at home... Maybe they've never had a meaningful relationship... Maybe they're still working at McDonalds for minimum wage... The point is that they're still sheltered little brats with absolutely no perspective and little to truly be proud of. Anything out of the ordinary is a frightening attack on their safe little corner of the world.
@Fallout2Forever My Bf sometimes jokingly say's "Get you Bitch ass in the kitchen & make me a pie" in his best Cartman imitation, then its funny. We both know he's joking. If some 1 i didn't know said it to me 'cause they where mad they lost to me, or because they beat me, it would not be.
@Fenrir085 I agree there are a great number of little boys and immature men out there that can't act normal around a girl.

I myself don't really care I will play against a girl and with a girl like any other gamer. At times I do have to stick up for a lot of the girl gamers I play with since people pick on them all the time. That makes it harder to play with females at times because they don't like getting bitched at all the time.

+1 to not being idiots around girls!
@kanashi +2 for an awesome gentlemen thread
@lordxenophon freaking hilarious :P

On a side note a hot girl gamer who loves to strategize is amazing.
@kanashi +15 for sticking up of for girl gamers in your party.
@Serthy agreed, and not to sound like a womanizer but just by finding a girl gamer is hot. Girls that are gamers is a huge turn on with me, but I don't objectify them.
@Olvel +1337

You sir have earned my respect!
@Olvel Funny and probably true, but some people can actually try to shut those assholes up, even through it may never happen.
@Fenrir085 I agree, even if I don't play FPS type games...I've partied with some jerks that quit my party in a PC MMORPG when they saw a better player than me or my partymates! I know that my problem has nothing to do with me being a girl...and playing a female character in those type games...I sometimes think it (being a girl and playing a female) helps me get into parties more than get kicked from them! Class and level probably also probably has a lot to with that too.
@fireystar In mmo's i am kind of biased as far as the female gamer community, WoW ruined a Girls perspective for me because almost ever single girl i played with except maybe 4 were all needy and wanted free loot. I'm sorry but just because you sound delicious over ventrilo doesn't constitute as a real girl in my book especially when you asking for me to help you constantly and i do all the work.

With tat being said kicking a girl from a party just because she is a girl is retarded. At least play with them to find out if they can hack it. If not then give them the boot but that goes for even the dudes i have played with.

Whats even better tho imo isa female who loves the rush of a challenge, especially in a PvP setting. Give me a good looking female who screams commands over ventrilo or hell in my living room because we lan centered up my delicious front area. Magic Gentleman pure freakin magic.
@fenrir085 <3
@Serthy thanks for the heart

I have never played a MMO before, but I'm sure that if I came across a woman that could Pwn with the best of them, I would raise my drinking horn to her. Bravo!!!!
As a female gamer I gotta say...I don't expect to be treated any different (well, other than the boob jokes with my guild). If I pwn, I pwn. And now and then, I'll suck. Same as a guy.
@foozlesprite And how often does that happen? Does it ever happen?
Girl gamers can't admit they suck, or they start to get requests.
@LordXenophon Bada Pish!
i thought it was clever :P
Damn, i have to unfollow this. My email is getting spammed.. >.>
@lordxenophon Only for the right price though Xeno :P
I'm guessing its mainly because you're playing on the 360...

I've had a couple instances in other places where a girl got treated like that, but it was mainly because she was talking smack and pwning everyone. Other than that its the usual boob jokes or the guy trying to talk "sexy"/get with her.
@Bonemane, I've also not noticed this, but most of the games I play don't support voice-chat, and are generally too fast-paced to allow people to type much of anything without being pwned, so that probably discourages this kind of behavior.
@Fenrir085 Im like that with my GF, "Woman, come heal Naxx" and she comes. No just kidding. My GF is a gamer and I don't get why the opposite from you happens to her. She mostly make friends easily which turns out to be a kind of awkward "blinded gamer-friend love" out of the blue. FPS is not her strong game genre either which might explain a lot of things since kids mostly play L4D, Halo and whatnot and they have microphones in thir 360 package, glad that I've sold mine.

I, however, have 100% confidence that these guys get their @#$% kicked by my lovely mage (in wow, she's not a mage in real life, not the slightest... I think.) and then sent the remains to their parents in guise of warning.

Nonetheless, I've been in a guild which was ran by 2 girls. Everything went well until emotions came into play.. Then again, that could happen to anyone.

Teehee.
Wow. I've never experienced this. Everytime I join a match and there's a girl in the server, everyone's too busy fawning over her like she just announced free blowjobs to the nicest person on the server to have an actual match. Everyone on the opposite team stops killing her, everyone on her team protects her instead of the fucking base.

Seriously. Equality also means no special treatment.
While I wholeheartedly appreciate the sentiment, isn't the rant in itself contributing to the fact that we are different than our male counterparts?

Everyone deserves respect, no?
@stashnet i agree, but the disrespect that is being shown to women is kinda insulting my honor.
I hated playing on the xbox 360 to many times would I find some idiot racist.
@XavierThirtyTwo
Finally someone who fucking gets my point.
FINALLY-
That's why I love my ps3 I could count on my fingers the amount of times I've had to deal with that shit.
lol I still think it's funny that the onle reason woman who talk sexy on ventrilo or the mic is for attention.

I'm sorry but you don't have to talk like a slut to get a guys attention ladies. Try just being yourself. Offering blowjobs is the quickest way for me to say "sure i'll help" and then as soon as the bullets start raining down on us i will use you as a human shield and outflank them to get the kills :P

Nah but really on a serious note, Most girls who are gamers that have to talk dirty to get what they want either A want attention or B just do it for fun, like how guys talk shit for no reason, girls just offer BJ's and sammiches :P lol <3
@Serthy What would offering blowjobs on XBL do? They gonna do it thru the TV?
@EarthboundX
Technology currently under development by Toshiba labs.

But in all seriousness, the whole idea of girl gamers is retarded. There are gamers. Some of them happen to be girls. Likewise, there are girls. Some of them happen to be gamers.

Falling back on the same comparison I always use, a girl who clamors for attention by declaring herself a 'girl gamer' because she plays a few popular games is the same thing as a guy following girls around trying to get attention by saying he's a chef because he knows how to microwave some instant ramen.

Truly awesome gamer girls don't obsess over being a gamer any more than the average male gamer does. If being a gamer girl is your entire identity, you're just as bad as those otaku nuts that have anime figurines lining every wall in their room and sleep with a body pillow that has an ecchi drawing of a girl from a popular shonen pasted on it.
@XavierThirtyTwo A true chef boils water on the stove when making instant ramen.
There was one woman I considering hurrassing on the net. That stupid one who thought fat princess was sexist.
If it's bigoted at all, I'd have to see it's healthist or anti-elitist. There's no sex to it. You kidnap her because her daddy is rich, and for no other reason.
@DeathorGlory9 *laughs*
I approve of this rant.
@XavierThirtyTwo

lol I've had that experience a couple times on SOCOM except I couldn't even squeeze an "ello" into the conversation between a girl I knew and the 7-12 guys fawning over her even though nobody knew what she looked like.

Jesus if you want to meet a girl that plays videogames play something that alot of girls play like 'Battlefield' or 'Hello Kitty Online'. Or better yet just go outside.
Wha'chu talking about? Everyone has equal rights on Xbox Live... the equal right to be have slurs and insults yelled at them by idiots. Everyone talks shit on Xbox Live... well, not me. I gave up on trying to converse with these idiots months ago.
Wow.....I had no idea you could kick a dead horse so many times.
Any one hear about that chick who won gamer of the month on XBL and subsequently had to change her gamer tag because of it.
@TheRandomH3R0 Well, dead horses don't move much, so they're a pretty easy target. Unless they are zombie horses. Then, they do move...albeit slowly and in a sort of shuffling, awkward gait. Still, pretty easy to kick.

Of course, there's also the rare zoombie horse that can run like a mofo as well as scale walls like Spider Man. Now those are tricky to kick. :P
@DeathorGlory9 I did not hear about that.
@arislyn So true, so true.
@arislyn I think the point here is that dead horses are worth no XP, drop no loot, don't count toward any achievements, and beating them ruins the meat.

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@LordXenophon YES!!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!!
@LordXenophon Still, they make a pretty satisfying "squish-SPLAT" when you hit them. I mean, who can deny the simple joy of making dead cows explode in Diablo II or smacking the bejeebers out of chickens in Dungeon Keeper? No exp, no drops, no achievements....and yet it still has the ability to make you giggle. :P
@WILDMAMMOTH
Microsoft had a contest or something and she won it and posted her gamer tag up.
After that she got thousands of hate mail and explicit photos, microsoft had to change her account for her and ban about 100 accounts.
@DeathorGlory9 That's crazy! I didn't know something like that had happened!
@LordXenophon You never know. There could be some loot if you beat the dead horse more and more. What's more, my ass just sprouted wings, and I can fly away right now!
@LordXenophon, My personal experience is that no amount of beating ruins the meat.
@dowekeller That is called tenderizing.
AHHH yes, this issue IS one near and dear to my heart. The insecurity, the cursing, the small juvenile penis'. Yes, there is nothing worse than the rampage of a guy gamer rejected by a girl gamer. What is weird about some of those rampages, is that sometimes, they are truly started from nothing? I mean, WTF, are you THAT angry with women that you have to attack every one that comes into a room. YEAH, that's real brave, attack a woman in an online setting because the girl you asked out laughed in your face. lol And these guys wonder why they never get laid. lol
Agreed, i know some pretty hot girl gamers, but when people talk sh!t about them they think they are nerdy and fat. HELL i'm not even afrid to admit it i got my ass handed to me more then once by a girl gamer. I my self Treat girl gamers with respect. and its always an honor to play along side them.
@Z3R0OneOneSe7en Yeah cause there are no fat nerdy gamer guys... They are all really buff & go to the gym all the time, just ask any of them.
ha, amen @TamaraLane
@TamaraLane I actually do go to the gym all the time. Though I also eat a lot of junk, so I have a few extra pounds, haha.

Man I wish my knee would heal so I could start my weight loss again.
@EarthboundX Here's hoping that the physical therapy will help you avoid surgery.
......I'm speachless..................really, speachless.
This does happen quite a bit, but I don't think its JUST because a person is a girl, the d&@ks just use that fact to have a reason make fun of them. Honestly the online community, im speaking from experience on XBL, is just crap. People disrespect others all the time, and i think it's the mere fact that they can get away with it. Don't get me wrong there are some great people online and I love online mp. The majority just sucks though.
@Z3R0OneOneSe7en I raise my Drinking horn of Mead to you friend, Bravo!!!!
And we just kept beating it's lifeless body........it made horrible crunching sounds as the bones snap'd and sliced through the flesh, protruding out. It'd been days sence this once prized stallion ran triumphantly amongst the rest. But persistantly we raised our bludgeners and struck them down upon the now morbidly twisted bag of bones.



Ok, not to be insensitive but DAMN! we get it, it sucks. Can we move on?
come one guys don't beat the meat.*

*insert immature giggle here
I was playing a wc3 custom game the other day and there was a girl on my team. Made a small mistake and she would just not let it drop! Sure I could respect her for getting into the game, but she was just being a total bitch :( luckily I remembered this thread and fought back the urge to tell her to make me a sammich.

Oh it was so hard too....like stopping Bruce Banner from turning into the Hulk. Well, maybe not that hard.
@bettadud Were you as "hard" for her like The Hulk would be "hard" for her? :P

Oh, and while I'm here, 616 Hulk(normal universe), or Ultimate Hulk?

Something tells me that you don't have the balls to answer this!
@Fallout2Forever I'm too noob to answer that haha
Sounds like trash talk, maybe it goes to far for some ppl maybe it doesnt for others. I'm a big trash talker no matter who i'm up against. its to get into their head its nothing personal...mafia type,"sorry nothing personal, just business". I'm ruthless but hey, anyone who's not playing for guts and glory dont have to stay and take the "abuse". But when the match is over and insults are thrown out then i think thats getting to far, trash talk for me is a strategy :-) not a demoralizer. Happy Gaming!
......and then we beat it some more.
@bettadud Wise choice, because if you had said ultimate hulk, well....(he has no problem raping and killing women.)
Morty rocks by the way.
absolutely true
@cobrashark it's Morte.
What is this, the new harleyquinnaa?
yea i agree. especially when a female whoops their ass, guys get all emotional.
@Dr-Madness, looks that way.
I chalk it up to boys being boys (please enhance the word boys) it is rude and stupid for these things to be said, but then I realize that most of the boys playing are 12 year olds who if their mother heard them talk like this they would be slapped and grounded.
@Angelina-Rayne Heh, that's true. I have played against a lot of foul mouthed kids, and I bet a lot of them are actually younger than 12...
i havent noticed anymore hate directed at women in games then i have at anyone else really... i mean the maturity level of xbox live isnt that great. no matter what win or lose the other team will trash talk even if your a guy. in my opinion lil kids have it far worse then women
Holy Crap!!! I had no idea that my post would be so popular.
You know, sometimes the horrible noises on the other end are worse than trash talking. People need to keep their bodily functions to themselves.
We do not post here because it is popular. We post here because it is not popular.
I'm lost for words.........really I am.
@LordXenophon I am well aware of that Xeno, I'm just surprised that this post effected so many people.
It's an invitation to rant endlessly about one of our most common pet peeves. Who can resist that?
@MichelleSavage good point.
They treat u like sh*t because they think there all awesome and there tryin to make u like them trust me i have alot of freinds like this wihich is why i normally dont play with them....I know this sonds wierd but i met my fiance on xbox live...yea i know i got shit for it theres nothin u can say i havent heard but the point is yes girl gamers are just like the guys...which is why i dont like the term girl gamers...there all gamers to me
I wish your comments applied only to girls I'm really tired of the racial slurs I hear on a regular basis. I have started reporting people on Xbox live even though their comment do not generally apply to me as I am a white male but there is no cause for such disrespect to anyone regardless of who they are This is one disappointment I have with Modern Warfare 2 that I can't just be in a party w\ my freinds and not have to listen to the idiots on general chat.
It's psychological in the aspe........ct.....ah fuck it, not even gonna try. BOO! TRASH TALKERS!! BOOOO!!!!
@Godfrey75 What are you talking about? I hear more slurs against white people than anyone else. Not that there's much racism in many of the games I play, but when I do hear it, it's stuff like "Go back to Utah, you Mormon expletive," or "You play like a hillbilly from the Ozarks," or "everyone knows white boys can't fight," or "he's some white kid who's daddy bought him a used account," or worst of all, "don't you dare tell a brother how to play, honkey!"
@LordXenophon Quotes like these make me glad I don't usually play multiplayer pvp shooters.
@LordXenophon "don't you dare tell a brother how to play, honkey!" doesn't make you laugh?
Actually, that one did, because it sounded so archaic.
I have to admit, I giggled.
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@LordXenophon Unfortunately the majority of racial comments I hear contain liberal use of the "N" word. I generally keep my comments during game play to game related directions for fellow players because I have no real idea who my team mates are and really could care less.
I only hear the N word from... the same people the N word means. Nobody else dares to use it.
@LordXenophon The N word is "Nobody?" :P
Hell I wish I'd catch more girls around my games, then I might be able to have an intelligent conversation for once, instead of all the BS coming from the self-proclaimed "gaming gods". Much love and props to the female gaming world, some of you are freaking awesome. +1 headshot ftw!
This is out of hand. The dead horse beating in this thread is ridiculous. I have unsubscribed, FINALLY.
Hmm...He must not have understood what it meant......Oh, well.
^...LOL.
YESSSS!!!!
Well the unfortunate truth of all of this is some people are anti-social nubs and they will act how they feel like acting. I have played many games across many platforms. The sad truth is whether it be a PC MMO to to a console Shooter, it honestly matters not. If females are not dealing with the harshness of the insults on the consoles, then they are dealing with the annoyances of guys on PC games trying to pick them up every 5 seconds. All you can do is LoL and Mute them. To all the girl gamers, foreign gamers (non-american)[I only say foreign like this because I have never been trash talked by the Canadians, British, English, Polish, African, etc, etc, and so forth. It's normally only Americans, though not limited to.] and others who deal with these persecutions. Hang in there. Keep playing and have fun. Think of it this way, if you ignore, mute, etc. these individuals. Then they just end up being some random noobs just yelling through the headset into nothingness. Leaving them to look stupid.
I am a female FPS gamer and I come across A LOT of sexism. The one thing that gets them off MY back is the fact that I beat them so badly after they talk smack. Once I've kicked their asses they usually show more respect.
@SumerKnight Good for you! My girls do exactly the same thing (with the same results btw). My boys know better than to
a.) Insult anyone on the basis of gender, and
b.) Hit on pixels

I've played female characters in MMOs (E&B specifically) before and was shocked at the idiots trying to pick up on CARTOONS. My God, how pathetic are their lives?
@pxppro haha well thank you!! I'm glad you're raising a new generation of respectable gamers. It's people like you making this world a better place one lesson at a time. And that's precisely how I feel about guys who try and pick up girls over xbox - I just think to myself, good Lord you have no idea if I'm a guy or not, you know nothing about me. i could be a butta face! lol
@SumerKnight It would serve them right ;) Guys trying to mack on electrons over the internetz probably need to realize that MMORPG is an anacronym for Many Men Online Role Playing Girls
If you were an FBI agent posing as a 15 year old, they'd get what they have coming as well. In RL, they're too timid to say anything or approach anyone, so they have to do it from behind their screens. Freaks.
hahaha too true!
@pxppro and @SumerKnight As quoted from starwars: "I felt a great disturbance in gaming, as if millions of male gamers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened. "
LOL
@Avs I honestly don't know how to reply to that lol
@Avs That would be the XBox pirate ban.
It reminds me of years back, cruising around with some friends and one saw this 'hot' girl walking down the street. He INSISTED that I pull up beside her so he could talk to her, and as I did, we all saw that it was a guy (long beard and all) in shorts with butt-length blonde hair.

Things are not always as they appear.

He has YET to live it down, and claims to be psychologically scarred by the ordeal.
I sounds to me like some people are just upset between random assholes and little kids, they are now getting curb stomped by gaming's latest batch of winners (no sarcasm, girls rock)!

I feel bad for any females trying to get into the gaming world. My girlfriend for example lead a guild on WoW for several years, has played Halo and CoD, and enjoys just about any game out there. But, because she has the gift of a vagina, she has to put up with the harassment and belittlement of fellow, male, gamers.

Is it fair? Not at all. The times are changing and people need to accept that women are becoming a major participant in games. In fact, I bet the next time you're on CoD, Halo, etc. and you get your ass pwned by the person with no mic, it's really a chick you THINK is a guy. And to that, I feel it's sad that in order to gain respect and excel, women have to do everything possible to seem like "one of the guys" in video games and hide their identity. It's horseshit.

@Neroldair well said! I would LOVE to play with your girlfriend sometime, she sounds badass!
@SumerKnight And the problem here is that if I said that, everyone would take it the wrong way. Oh the irony of our society and the way gaming reflects our nature.
@Avs if you said what?
@Avs If you said what? Wanting to play with somebody's girlfriend?
there will aways be idiots online; mute, beat them down then report =D
Talking about idiots online, I am really not liking the "Game Chat" requirement in some MW2 playlists. It's funny because I knew what I would be getting into if I played those playlists and I have not been proven wrong. You don't get it all the time, but for the most part there is always at least one person in every game that screams incessantly or doesn't know how to withhold his rage. I understand why Infinity Ward made this decision, but I think it's essentially worthless.
Yeah, I remember getting my wife involved in gaming with Uno at first. And the second game she played, someone called here a c*nt. Fun times...

She now plays muted without a mic, but at least she still plays. It's sad though, but anytime you add anonymity, it spawns disrespect and a-hole syndrome.
Well, they are inferior. Their brains are smaller. It's science.

Wait, Men believe Women are far superior to Men?
@HighSimSim I don't, equality works for me.
wow, never had such an experience .. Oo probably our guys over here are happy meeting a girl in a game ;)
Lol, believe me when I say most mature guys don't care. I'm actually quite welcoming of girls, and I wish that more would play video games. It's just a shame that there are those out there that talk down girl gamers because they can't handle the fact that the opposite sex can be as good at a game as us.
When I was 5, I learned from my older brother that you treat the girl like she IS superior and that was good advice. Married at 23.

That's better than the alternative from these fools. Age 45, Cheetos bellies with blowup dolls.
@MellowNinja Don't forget, they probably live in their parents' basement.
And that's the group that the mundanes see when they look at who's playing the most common games (i.e. the only games they here about), and we all get painted with the same loser brush. While the majority of really dedicated gamers are much more healthy well rounded individuals.
wow, this convo is getting crazy with replies!
That's probably true. When a mundane wanders into the internet cafe, the most obvious people are the one shouting across the room instead of using the danged voice channel, while the guys my age are using their headphones and quetly grinding away in the vault.
I am usually mute when I'm playing FPSs (too busy trying to keep from getting my @$$ kicked (usually less than successfully)), and since I usually go looking for loot, or mining, smithing and crafting alone, the only time I chat is back at the tavern. Then generally text chat in both MMOs I'm into.
Yep. That's pretty much how old men like us play.
Thanks for being inclusive with the "old men" bit! Though I have to admit I've been playing with computers for nearly thirty years.
That sounds about right.
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